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bungusmaximus · Feb 08, 2007, 12:03 PM // 12:03

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Originally Posted by dgb

Are you kidding? Ensign was one of the first people to get to the end of Nightfall AFAIK and is extremely good at min-maxing PVE to blaze through it.

If I wanted to roleplay, play in character and generally play sub-standard builds but have fun because I'm being a water mage or something then CB wins. If I want to beat the crap out of PVE Ensign wins.

Yeh I already edited my post, I was accidentally mixing people up :P.

LightningHell · Feb 08, 2007, 02:21 PM // 14:21

I'm just following Ensign's footsteps. Glyph of Sacrifice - Resurrection Chant is his creation.

GvG generally gives optimized builds. Optimized builds are what you rarely see in PvE. Of course, there are exceptions, such as Dragon Slash, Minion Masters, and the like, but for the Elementalist's case, there really are only a few paths to be optimized.

As dgb says, the builds people generally run are pretty substandard, but hell, if you have fun with it...

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Originally Posted by Celestial Beaver

Please explain to me how having a build using 5 attributes is "cookie cutter". I always throught cookie cutter are generally good builds anyone can use...particularly people who are new to the game. Teaching people that using 5 attributes is a good idea so early on, to me, is not the best idea. I could be wrong of course...

It does teach people how to read breakpoints.

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Cebe · Feb 08, 2007, 02:44 PM // 14:44

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Originally Posted by LightningHell

It does teach people how to read breakpoints.

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I have to say I am speechless...almost. Please tell me the build you came up with at the end of that was a joke?

Edited: I can only assume those builds are for PvP. Sorry...I don't PvP so I automatically think PvE...

bungusmaximus · Feb 08, 2007, 02:57 PM // 14:57

Nope, it's not a joke. It's a perfectly valid PVP build and it probably helps a great deal if you use it wisely. You two just look at an ele from different points of view. People would expect eles to PWN major face and blow people to tiny bits with frontloaded damage, but in PvP they just can't seem to keep good pressure up. Ele's have the curse of being overly vulnerable to all kinds of mischief that won't bother you in PvE missions. I tried everything in TA with mine and i Finally came up with this:
-Res signet
-Ether Prodigy
-Air attunement
-Purge signet
-Blinding flash
-Lightning hammer
-Enervating charge
-Stoning

cons:
-People strip enchants, i'm screwed
-Lightning hammer is fine damage but the *&(*&(!!! emanagement system eles have make me lose all 25 energy when some smartass interrupts it.
-Casting Air attunements, oh crap, interrupted, no I have to do without for the next 45 SECONDS ><
-Blinding flash is godly, darn why doesnt it do damage!
-Enervating + stoning do some nice weakness + KD, if there isnt a tree/rock in the way that is

Damn if I want to beat the crap out of people, why not run a warrior...

As for lightnings remark on eles running suboptimal skills in PvE I can only say that there is no such thing. I often tweak my build to optimize it because I know what I will run into. There is no 'optimal' build for PvE because it constantly changes

Razorwood · Feb 08, 2007, 03:24 PM // 15:24

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Originally Posted by bungusmaximus

As for lightnings remark on eles running suboptimal skills in PvE I can only say that there is no such thing. I often tweak my build to optimize it because I know what I will run into. There is no 'optimal' build for PvE because it constantly changes

Should that last bit read PvP? PvE does change but generally if there's a dramatic change from what you are currently doing you will hit a town / outpost first.